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Was the original RVF simply a mediocre incel forum? - PAG - 06-22-2024 No doubt, the original RVF has assisted academics in comprehending incels and the Red Pill to Black Pill framework as a means for individuals to express their mental illness in connection with certain previously concealed alleged truths. But what enduring value did RVF produce? 30 years ago, the so-called "seduction" industry emerged, a business that sold seminars and media professing to educate men how to seduce or pick up women, earning these guys the nickname pick-up artists (PUAs).  The first PUA forum, alt.seduction.fast, established in 1994, aided the industry's growth into a communal subculture. Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project was one of the new forums that emerged in the 1990s, and it is where the term "incel" first appeared. The forum, founded by a bisexual lady in Toronto, intended to help those who wanted but couldn't find love connections. While this forum was not intended to promote misogyny, members of the pickup artist and incel communities shared disappointment with their lack of sexual experience. Game methods and PUA culture rose to popularity in popular culture in the mid-2000s as a result of journalist Neil Strauss' best-selling 2005 book The Game, in which he immersed himself in PUA culture, and the 2007 VH1 reality show The Pick-Up Artist. The three handicaps, Rollo, Roissy, and Roosh, led the so-called Manosphere as it emerged at the same time. They expanded on the idea of the sexual marketplace. According to this theory, each person has a "sexual market value" (SMV), which depends on things like physical appearance, fitness, age, wealth, and social class. This, they argue, results in a distribution of women that follows the 80/20 rule: 80 percent of women chase the top 20 percent of men, while the bottom 20 percent of women pursue the remaining 80 percent of men. Most of these concepts were based on a simplified understanding of evolutionary biology. PUAs recommend that men improve their SMV by mastering the "game" (techniques for seducing women), making more money, and/or enhancing their physical attractiveness through exercise. These beliefs also lead into red pill theory, which "awakens" men to the alleged realities of feminist rule. Around 2016, incel forums like RVF began to shift from a Red Pill to an increasing "Black Pill" mentality that women choose sexual partners based solely on physical features ("lookism"), implying that whether or not a person will be an incel is determined.  The Black Pill worldview often provides just two options for dealing with their new accepted reality: accept their fate as an incel or attempt to change society to their advantage. Incels embrace a wide range of political beliefs, including women's concentration camps, government-mandated girlfriends and enforced monogamy, and the abolition of the majority of "alpha" men and women. The Santa Barbara shooter's manifesto reflects his own image of a perfect society. The specifics of a political program are not created in a cohesive manner for the entire movement; however, they perceive themselves as an oppressed group that can only improve their status by a comprehensive revolution and reformation of society. To normal people, it appears to have opened a Pandora's box of mental disease that has required considerable effort to contain.  Autistic spectrum incels seek to prove the reality of their beliefs by misinterpreting scientific research, online dating databases, and conducting their own "experiments" to show that women are primarily concerned with a man's physical attractiveness. Although some incels continue to pursue plastic surgery, exercise ("gym maxxing"), or otherwise try to improve their physical appearance, many believe such attempts are pointless because inceldom is a societal issue rather than an individual one, etc. I believe that ignorance and bias have a place and can assist to the growth of truth by forcing you to think outside of your usual thought patterns. It's similar to studying philosophy. Philosophy is like doing pushups. What’s the point of pushups, so you can do more pushups? Maybe for some. But we can see how this capitalist approach to gain for the sake of being able to gain more is completely ridiculous. So, philosophy is useless. It simply improves your cognitive abilities. This is how RVF should be regarded. Students today have emphasized the quick, blind reduction of prejudice to the realm of intellectual inferiority, and as a result, they lack the intellectual firepower to eliminate prejudice through argument and critical thought rather than hollow, intuitive bias. This has given rise to the right-wing, which claims they are being unfairly punished and discarded. There was a general lack of knowledge about autism spectrum disorders when I first started warning people in 2016 about the serious danger that radicalized autistic people posed, and no one saw the connection. Autism is a significant disorder. Contrary to the beliefs of many members of the neurodiversity community, it is not merely a collection of social idiosyncrasies. Individuals who are impacted often have significant social limitations, as well as some level of language impairment, difficulties with processing information, heightened sensitivity, and a tendency to experience sensory overload and fatigue. A significant number of these people necessitate rigorous treatment and medication. The long-term effects of sensory level delusional activation, which results from excessive activity and disorganized patterns across the cerebral cortex, can be significant. The term Red Pill has gained wider acceptance among far-right and white supremacist groups, who use it to characterize their own interpretations of awakening experiences and conspiracy-based worldviews. These perspectives frequently align with male supremacist ideologies, including antifeminism. Refer to: http://bit.ly/3Kp2nu3  The original RVF content acts as a precursor to the Red Pill ideology and eventually leads to the adoption of the Black Pill ideology. This ultimately results in condemnation on Earth. Any ideology that supports the Red Pill notion of a matriarchal society, while disregarding individual-level actions and asserting that only societal transformation can bring about positive outcomes, is profoundly foolish and warrants serious consideration.