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Apollonian vs. Dionysian Traits
Drawing from Greek mythology, the figure of Apollo represents order, structure, and rationality, while Dionysus represents chaos, passion, and irrationality. These opposing traits manifest in cultural behaviors, influencing how individuals from different racial or cultural backgrounds interact.

Dionysians (Blacks and Browns)
Dionysians are associated with energy, passion, and spontaneity. Biologically, individuals from warmer climates often have higher levels of testosterone, partly due to better Vitamin D synthesis from sunlight. This contributes to traits like creativity, assertiveness, reduced social anxiety, and a propensity for risk-taking. These traits align with what is often labeled "charisma" or "swagger" in social settings.

Culturally, "Dionysian" societies or groups excel in imagination, music, art, and expressions of raw emotion. American Black culture, for instance, has profoundly shaped global popular culture, from music genres like jazz, hip-hop, and rock to fashion and language. These contributions reflect a vibrant, creative, and instinctual force that resonates deeply across cultures.

Apollonians (Whites and Northerners)
Apollonians, in contrast, represent order, structure, and rationality. Culturally, they emphasize discipline, precision, and the pursuit of clarity. This archetype aligns with the Northern European historical focus on survival.

From a biological perspective, individuals from colder climates evolved under different environmental pressures, favoring cultural assimilation and basic survival. These traits often translate into methodical approaches to "game," where subtlety, status signaling, and consistency are emphasized over raw expression.

Nietzsche saw these two forces—order and chaos—as complementary, rather than opposing. He argued that Western culture, with its emphasis on Apollonian ideals (order, reason), led to a devaluation of Dionysian traits (imagination, spontaneity). This led to a tension between reason and chaos, where science, logic, and structure were prioritized over emotional and instinctual freedom.

Influence of Black Culture
In contemporary Western culture, black culture (Dionysian in nature) plays a dominant role, shaping much of what is considered "popular" today. From music genres like jazz, blues, and hip hop, to fashion, language, and even attitudes, black culture has greatly influenced global trends. Without the contributions of black culture, American culture, and by extension, global culture, would look drastically different.

Cultural Evolution and the South
Southern Europeans, with their historical connection to Africa through migration during the Roman Empire and later Arab influence, are seen as early developers of many aspects of European culture. While Northern Europeans tend to have more ancient hunter-gatherer ancestry, Southern Europeans have deeper connections to the early civilizations that shaped Europe’s cultural identity.

In the realm of science and intellectual progress, the Apollonian approach emphasizes structure and the perfection of established ideas, while the Dionysian relies more on imagination and unpredictability, often leading to groundbreaking discoveries. This dichotomy reflects in the way different cultures approach knowledge and creativity.

Cultural and Historical Context
The Apollonian-Dionysian dichotomy isn’t purely racial—it’s deeply cultural and shaped by historical and environmental factors:

1. Greek Foundations:
   • Apollo symbolizes reason, order, and individuality.
     
   • Dionysus embodies chaos, passion, and unity.
     
   • The Greeks did not view these traits as opposites but as complementary forces, essential for balance in life and art.
     
2. Nietzsche’s Philosophy:
   • Friedrich Nietzsche argued that Western culture, influenced by Socratic rationalism, became overly Apollonian, prioritizing form and structure while devaluing the Dionysian chaos of instinct and creativity.
     
   • He believed true vitality and creativity arise from balancing both forces, as seen in the birth of Greek tragedy—a synthesis of Apollonian clarity and Dionysian ecstasy.
     
3. Cultural Interplay:
   • Modern American culture exemplifies a Dionysian dominance in popular expression, with Black culture serving as a creative epicenter.
     
   • European traditions often reflect an Apollonian refinement, excelling in institutional development and formalized systems.
     

Implications for Social Dynamics
In the context of "game," or social interaction:

• Dionysian Influence:
  Individuals with more Dionysian traits may excel in environments that value spontaneity, energy, and creativity. This advantage is apparent in nightlife, music, and emotionally charged settings.
  
• Apollonian Influence:
  Apollonian traits lend themselves to environments that reward structure, strategy, and measured interactions. These settings may include professional networks, formal gatherings, or intellectually driven circles.
  

To summarize: The Dionysian and Apollonian dichotomy offers a compelling framework for understanding human behavior, particularly when examined through the lens of environmental and biological influences. Within this framework, individuals can be conceptualized as belonging to two broad categories: “sun people” and “ice people.” This categorization is grounded in fundamental scientific principles, particularly the role of Vitamin D, often referred to as the "sunshine vitamin." Vitamin D is synthesized in the skin upon exposure to sunlight and plays a critical role in mood regulation and mental well-being. Increased exposure to sunlight has been shown to enhance mood and support mental health, largely through its impact on serotonin production, a neurotransmitter associated with feelings of happiness and well-being. Conversely, insufficient Vitamin D levels have been linked to higher incidences of depression, anxiety, and reduced neural plasticity.

This biological basis may also help explain broader cultural and societal trends. For instance, the rise of Silicon Valley in California—characterized by its sunny and temperate climate—stands in stark contrast to the lack of a comparable ecosystem in Boston, despite its concentration of world-class educational institutions. Facebook, originally founded in Cambridge, Massachusetts, relocated to Silicon Valley, in part because of the region's favorable conditions, including a climate that fosters creativity, risk-taking, and innovation. The pleasant weather and abundant sunlight contribute to a laid-back, entrepreneurial culture that attracts talent and encourages collaboration, qualities essential for sustained innovation.

In this context, Vitamin D emerges as a critical, albeit underexplored, factor in shaping not only individual mental health but also the broader social and cultural dynamics that drive human progress.

Ultimately, success in social interactions transcends racial or cultural archetypes. It involves recognizing one’s strengths, adapting to the environment, and balancing instinctual (Dionysian) and rational (Apollonian) approaches. A nuanced understanding of these forces allows individuals to navigate diverse social landscapes effectively.]]>


Apollonian vs. Dionysian Traits
Drawing from Greek mythology, the figure of Apollo represents order, structure, and rationality, while Dionysus represents chaos, passion, and irrationality. These opposing traits manifest in cultural behaviors, influencing how individuals from different racial or cultural backgrounds interact.

Dionysians (Blacks and Browns)
Dionysians are associated with energy, passion, and spontaneity. Biologically, individuals from warmer climates often have higher levels of testosterone, partly due to better Vitamin D synthesis from sunlight. This contributes to traits like creativity, assertiveness, reduced social anxiety, and a propensity for risk-taking. These traits align with what is often labeled "charisma" or "swagger" in social settings.

Culturally, "Dionysian" societies or groups excel in imagination, music, art, and expressions of raw emotion. American Black culture, for instance, has profoundly shaped global popular culture, from music genres like jazz, hip-hop, and rock to fashion and language. These contributions reflect a vibrant, creative, and instinctual force that resonates deeply across cultures.

Apollonians (Whites and Northerners)
Apollonians, in contrast, represent order, structure, and rationality. Culturally, they emphasize discipline, precision, and the pursuit of clarity. This archetype aligns with the Northern European historical focus on survival.

From a biological perspective, individuals from colder climates evolved under different environmental pressures, favoring cultural assimilation and basic survival. These traits often translate into methodical approaches to "game," where subtlety, status signaling, and consistency are emphasized over raw expression.

Nietzsche saw these two forces—order and chaos—as complementary, rather than opposing. He argued that Western culture, with its emphasis on Apollonian ideals (order, reason), led to a devaluation of Dionysian traits (imagination, spontaneity). This led to a tension between reason and chaos, where science, logic, and structure were prioritized over emotional and instinctual freedom.

Influence of Black Culture
In contemporary Western culture, black culture (Dionysian in nature) plays a dominant role, shaping much of what is considered "popular" today. From music genres like jazz, blues, and hip hop, to fashion, language, and even attitudes, black culture has greatly influenced global trends. Without the contributions of black culture, American culture, and by extension, global culture, would look drastically different.

Cultural Evolution and the South
Southern Europeans, with their historical connection to Africa through migration during the Roman Empire and later Arab influence, are seen as early developers of many aspects of European culture. While Northern Europeans tend to have more ancient hunter-gatherer ancestry, Southern Europeans have deeper connections to the early civilizations that shaped Europe’s cultural identity.

In the realm of science and intellectual progress, the Apollonian approach emphasizes structure and the perfection of established ideas, while the Dionysian relies more on imagination and unpredictability, often leading to groundbreaking discoveries. This dichotomy reflects in the way different cultures approach knowledge and creativity.

Cultural and Historical Context
The Apollonian-Dionysian dichotomy isn’t purely racial—it’s deeply cultural and shaped by historical and environmental factors:

1. Greek Foundations:
   • Apollo symbolizes reason, order, and individuality.
     
   • Dionysus embodies chaos, passion, and unity.
     
   • The Greeks did not view these traits as opposites but as complementary forces, essential for balance in life and art.
     
2. Nietzsche’s Philosophy:
   • Friedrich Nietzsche argued that Western culture, influenced by Socratic rationalism, became overly Apollonian, prioritizing form and structure while devaluing the Dionysian chaos of instinct and creativity.
     
   • He believed true vitality and creativity arise from balancing both forces, as seen in the birth of Greek tragedy—a synthesis of Apollonian clarity and Dionysian ecstasy.
     
3. Cultural Interplay:
   • Modern American culture exemplifies a Dionysian dominance in popular expression, with Black culture serving as a creative epicenter.
     
   • European traditions often reflect an Apollonian refinement, excelling in institutional development and formalized systems.
     

Implications for Social Dynamics
In the context of "game," or social interaction:

• Dionysian Influence:
  Individuals with more Dionysian traits may excel in environments that value spontaneity, energy, and creativity. This advantage is apparent in nightlife, music, and emotionally charged settings.
  
• Apollonian Influence:
  Apollonian traits lend themselves to environments that reward structure, strategy, and measured interactions. These settings may include professional networks, formal gatherings, or intellectually driven circles.
  

To summarize: The Dionysian and Apollonian dichotomy offers a compelling framework for understanding human behavior, particularly when examined through the lens of environmental and biological influences. Within this framework, individuals can be conceptualized as belonging to two broad categories: “sun people” and “ice people.” This categorization is grounded in fundamental scientific principles, particularly the role of Vitamin D, often referred to as the "sunshine vitamin." Vitamin D is synthesized in the skin upon exposure to sunlight and plays a critical role in mood regulation and mental well-being. Increased exposure to sunlight has been shown to enhance mood and support mental health, largely through its impact on serotonin production, a neurotransmitter associated with feelings of happiness and well-being. Conversely, insufficient Vitamin D levels have been linked to higher incidences of depression, anxiety, and reduced neural plasticity.

This biological basis may also help explain broader cultural and societal trends. For instance, the rise of Silicon Valley in California—characterized by its sunny and temperate climate—stands in stark contrast to the lack of a comparable ecosystem in Boston, despite its concentration of world-class educational institutions. Facebook, originally founded in Cambridge, Massachusetts, relocated to Silicon Valley, in part because of the region's favorable conditions, including a climate that fosters creativity, risk-taking, and innovation. The pleasant weather and abundant sunlight contribute to a laid-back, entrepreneurial culture that attracts talent and encourages collaboration, qualities essential for sustained innovation.

In this context, Vitamin D emerges as a critical, albeit underexplored, factor in shaping not only individual mental health but also the broader social and cultural dynamics that drive human progress.

Ultimately, success in social interactions transcends racial or cultural archetypes. It involves recognizing one’s strengths, adapting to the environment, and balancing instinctual (Dionysian) and rational (Apollonian) approaches. A nuanced understanding of these forces allows individuals to navigate diverse social landscapes effectively.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=4357 Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:58:06 +0000 pitbull510]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=4357




Don't waste your time with cheap knockoffs





Always bet on black

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Don't waste your time with cheap knockoffs





Always bet on black

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it's actually a really fun read and will elevate your "game" from kindergarten to high school



After gaining a basic understanding of biology, cognitive psychology, the philosophy of science, and the philosophy of mind, you'll be ready for pickup :lol:]]>


it's actually a really fun read and will elevate your "game" from kindergarten to high school



After gaining a basic understanding of biology, cognitive psychology, the philosophy of science, and the philosophy of mind, you'll be ready for pickup :lol:]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=140 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:19:00 +0000 AirWaves]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=140
Here are a few of my many observations.

Gen-Z ladies have some of the worst dress styles I've seen since the 1980s (which makes sense because a lot of their dress styles are inspired by that era lmfaooo).

Nightlife is becoming less vibrant than it once was. The nightlife scene never really recovered following the COVID lockdowns. I've noticed a lot of posts online about folks discussing this in various metros. In the metro region I'm now in, I've seen a number of reviews, comments, or whatever you want to call them regarding the local nightlife scene, and none of them were positive. I observed a lot of remarks about how things weren't as good as they had been pre-COVID and how the environment was dreadful. I also recall reading a lot of comments about how it's gotten much trashier and full of ghetto folks lol. Something I've noticed is that there are a lot of fights going on in clubs around here, as well as shootings.

There are significantly more high-end sit-down restaurants and far fewer clubs and bars where you can simply meet women. This could be a Miami issue, so perhaps folks from other cities can weigh in. There are far more venues where you must reserve a table rather to simply showing up and playing. Even promoters are being replaced by an app called "Tabler".

Women are becoming b1tchier throughout the day, making daygame less viable. I believe that is related to the creep culture, with women bragging about how guys observe them in the gym or something, while women are less willing to be approached coldly during the day. There are a lot more AirPods and headphones for women who don't want to be bothered. During the lockdowns, people became socially isolated to a greater extent than they were used to. The weeks and months pass, and before you realize it, you've become a recluse, with basic social interaction becoming increasingly difficult. People become less social and more inward-focused, alienated, and shut in. When you get into this routine, it can be quite tough to break. What you're seeing isn't necessarily dating-related, but rather basic social interactions.

In my perspective, the importance of social media is somewhat overstated. Swipe applications have been dead for a while. You can still find a PYT on Bumble and other applications, but you must stick out more, i.e. be attractive. Successful men aren't interested in utilizing dating apps unless they're in a rut or trying to covertly cheat, but to each their own. Dating applications, as mentioned, have become a cesspool of low-quality girls, including the attractive ones. Unless you are an athlete or star, this is unlikely to be a game changer unless you are willing to go headfirst into the Instagram phoney madness. I would keep away of this.

It's almost as if the entire dating industry is waiting for the next truly unique breakthrough. First, the rise of Tinder and Swipe Apps caused older dating services to be phased out. As of now, no app has dethroned the Big 3 Dating Apps, resulting in a standstill in the online dating market as a whole. I believe the next breakthrough will not be an app, but rather a return to in-person events and connections. There may be some online component to organizing, but people, in general, are growing tired of online engagement.It is a female's job to entice, and it is in her feminine nature to strive to capture all of your attention. If you want to meet quality ladies, you should focus on your lifestyle game or social circle more than before. By quality, I mean behavior and appearance. As previously said, online dating is a dumping ground for low-quality women, including those who are attractive. With the lifestyle/social circle game, the vetting process is easy, and if you have great mates, they can also give their input on potential women,

Open relationships are becoming more common, particularly on swipe apps; I've even had ladies state that their boyfriend is bisexual, so the cucking is a real thing.

Feel free to add your observations..]]>
Here are a few of my many observations.

Gen-Z ladies have some of the worst dress styles I've seen since the 1980s (which makes sense because a lot of their dress styles are inspired by that era lmfaooo).

Nightlife is becoming less vibrant than it once was. The nightlife scene never really recovered following the COVID lockdowns. I've noticed a lot of posts online about folks discussing this in various metros. In the metro region I'm now in, I've seen a number of reviews, comments, or whatever you want to call them regarding the local nightlife scene, and none of them were positive. I observed a lot of remarks about how things weren't as good as they had been pre-COVID and how the environment was dreadful. I also recall reading a lot of comments about how it's gotten much trashier and full of ghetto folks lol. Something I've noticed is that there are a lot of fights going on in clubs around here, as well as shootings.

There are significantly more high-end sit-down restaurants and far fewer clubs and bars where you can simply meet women. This could be a Miami issue, so perhaps folks from other cities can weigh in. There are far more venues where you must reserve a table rather to simply showing up and playing. Even promoters are being replaced by an app called "Tabler".

Women are becoming b1tchier throughout the day, making daygame less viable. I believe that is related to the creep culture, with women bragging about how guys observe them in the gym or something, while women are less willing to be approached coldly during the day. There are a lot more AirPods and headphones for women who don't want to be bothered. During the lockdowns, people became socially isolated to a greater extent than they were used to. The weeks and months pass, and before you realize it, you've become a recluse, with basic social interaction becoming increasingly difficult. People become less social and more inward-focused, alienated, and shut in. When you get into this routine, it can be quite tough to break. What you're seeing isn't necessarily dating-related, but rather basic social interactions.

In my perspective, the importance of social media is somewhat overstated. Swipe applications have been dead for a while. You can still find a PYT on Bumble and other applications, but you must stick out more, i.e. be attractive. Successful men aren't interested in utilizing dating apps unless they're in a rut or trying to covertly cheat, but to each their own. Dating applications, as mentioned, have become a cesspool of low-quality girls, including the attractive ones. Unless you are an athlete or star, this is unlikely to be a game changer unless you are willing to go headfirst into the Instagram phoney madness. I would keep away of this.

It's almost as if the entire dating industry is waiting for the next truly unique breakthrough. First, the rise of Tinder and Swipe Apps caused older dating services to be phased out. As of now, no app has dethroned the Big 3 Dating Apps, resulting in a standstill in the online dating market as a whole. I believe the next breakthrough will not be an app, but rather a return to in-person events and connections. There may be some online component to organizing, but people, in general, are growing tired of online engagement.It is a female's job to entice, and it is in her feminine nature to strive to capture all of your attention. If you want to meet quality ladies, you should focus on your lifestyle game or social circle more than before. By quality, I mean behavior and appearance. As previously said, online dating is a dumping ground for low-quality women, including those who are attractive. With the lifestyle/social circle game, the vetting process is easy, and if you have great mates, they can also give their input on potential women,

Open relationships are becoming more common, particularly on swipe apps; I've even had ladies state that their boyfriend is bisexual, so the cucking is a real thing.

Feel free to add your observations..]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=139 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 10:48:12 +0000 AirWaves]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=139 https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=136 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:01:50 +0000 PAG]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=136
However, female attraction goes beyond appearance. He who commands attention is beautiful and high-status. This is why rap stars get more ass than CEOs and why haters surface when someone is popular. Attention-grabbing men are what women want. Humans evolved from a threat-based social system to one based on attraction. In beauty contests, exam rooms, athletics, art, literature, and Nobel Prize races, we strive for favorable attention, adoration, and prestige. We want to be valued for our positive contributions, talents, and attributes. People are ranked based on their ability to contribute to society. This means that our society's true alphas are professional athletes, Youtube/Instagram stars, Nobel Prize winners, successful performers and artists, affluent businessmen, and politicians we elect for their ability to contribute meaningfully and lead.]]>
However, female attraction goes beyond appearance. He who commands attention is beautiful and high-status. This is why rap stars get more ass than CEOs and why haters surface when someone is popular. Attention-grabbing men are what women want. Humans evolved from a threat-based social system to one based on attraction. In beauty contests, exam rooms, athletics, art, literature, and Nobel Prize races, we strive for favorable attention, adoration, and prestige. We want to be valued for our positive contributions, talents, and attributes. People are ranked based on their ability to contribute to society. This means that our society's true alphas are professional athletes, Youtube/Instagram stars, Nobel Prize winners, successful performers and artists, affluent businessmen, and politicians we elect for their ability to contribute meaningfully and lead.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=134 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:07:46 +0000 whitemike]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=134
Both of these beliefs are genetically encoded in everyone of us (to varied degrees) as a result of our old survival impulses (egocentrism) and our need to belong to groups or tribes. Combining these fundamental notions might be easy to understand but challenging to implement. Speak in terms of the other person's interests and priorities, then validate them, their choices, and their identity without passing judgment. Some people do this naturally; for the rest, you can train this skill until it becomes second nature. If you disagree, simply offer, "That's a fascinating / insightful/ thoughtful opinion…would you mind helping me understand how you came up with it?". Again, their brain will reward them at several levels for this.]]>
Both of these beliefs are genetically encoded in everyone of us (to varied degrees) as a result of our old survival impulses (egocentrism) and our need to belong to groups or tribes. Combining these fundamental notions might be easy to understand but challenging to implement. Speak in terms of the other person's interests and priorities, then validate them, their choices, and their identity without passing judgment. Some people do this naturally; for the rest, you can train this skill until it becomes second nature. If you disagree, simply offer, "That's a fascinating / insightful/ thoughtful opinion…would you mind helping me understand how you came up with it?". Again, their brain will reward them at several levels for this.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=133 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:57:39 +0000 whitemike]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=133
The PUA strategy is based on the belief that women are attracted to dominant males in their local community. While being the alpha male may be challenging, it is quite simple to deceive women using certain mannerisms and actions. Therefore, the true alpha status is often confused with the perception of alpha status by one or more women, specifically in terms of the sexual benefits associated with alpha rank. Most of what you mentioned is accurate, however it is somewhat irrelevant to the main topic.

A beta animal is a subordinate animal that assumes the role of alpha if the current alpha dies.]]>
The PUA strategy is based on the belief that women are attracted to dominant males in their local community. While being the alpha male may be challenging, it is quite simple to deceive women using certain mannerisms and actions. Therefore, the true alpha status is often confused with the perception of alpha status by one or more women, specifically in terms of the sexual benefits associated with alpha rank. Most of what you mentioned is accurate, however it is somewhat irrelevant to the main topic.

A beta animal is a subordinate animal that assumes the role of alpha if the current alpha dies.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=131 Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:48:40 +0000 PAG]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=131
The most unrefined type of desire is also the most readily identifiable as a desire to possess another. For example, control over a woman. A more subtle desire to possess her also requires her soul, and thus needs her to be willing to sacrifice herself for her lover. This is characterized by Nietzsche as a more full possession. An even more subtle desire to possess her gives rise to a concern that she might be willing to sacrifice what she desires for a mistaken image of her lover. This leads some lovers to want their women to know them deep down so that their sacrifice really is a sacrifice for them. A similar rank-ordering applies to statesmen, the less refined not caring whether they attain power by fraud, the more refined not taking pleasure in the people's love unless they love the statesman for who he really is. In both cases, the more spiritualized form of the desire to possess also demands one possess what is good more completely.

Nietzsche challenges romantic conceptions of erotic love by saying that love "may be the most ingenuous expression of selfishness." However, he does not make a clear effort to convince his readers that love, in its self-serving expressions, should be changed; nor does he suggest that even the most pervasive illusions of love should be rectified. Instead, he notes that strong human propensities to illusion in erotic love are important for that love to be effective, and praises some of the ingenuity of the artistry of love and the roles that people play. Men and women play these roles differently, and Nietzsche spends considerable time stressing the profound disparity between the sexes in the way they love.

The irony of this predicament is that a large number of men are completely unaware of the power their passionate attachments have both to the formation of their values and to their interactions with the world. Thus, according to Nietzsche, men in love are delirious. Women, on the other hand, are actors: their greatest skills in love rely on appearance, artistry and the play of' correct' gender roles. Nietzsche says that love has a comic dimension in this regard, because it involves a kind of theater that paradoxically relies on the distance of a woman. When women become too accessible or ‘real’ to men, men lose interest in them. Nietzsche finds love comedic because it does not consist in some attempt to know the other deeply, but rather in the confirmation of male fantasies in which women perform their constructed gender roles.

The idolatry that women practice when it comes to love is profoundly and initially a clever tool, in that all these idealizations of love enhance their own power and present them as ever more attractive in the eyes of men. But because, over the years, they have become used to this inflated estimation of love, it has happened that they ran into their own net and forgot the reason behind it. They themselves are now more deceived than men, and they suffer more, therefore, from the disappointment that almost inevitably comes into every woman's life— to the extent that she even has enough imagination and sense to be deceived and disappointed. Both men and women "need to be better educated" with regard to the essence of the relationship between men and women, "For it is a man who creates for himself the image of a woman, and a woman who shapes herself according to this image".

Nietzsche separates masculine from feminine love by conceptions of commitment and loyalty. Whereas women want to surrender completely to love, to approach it as a faith, to be "taken and accepted as a possession," Nietzsche argues that male love adheres to a possessive thirst to gain more from a lover, and states that men who are inclined to complete devotion are "not men." He suggests that “a man who loves like a woman becomes a slave; while a woman who loves like a woman becomes a more perfect woman”. Nietzsche maintains that fidelity can become an attribute of male love over time, due to, for example, gratitude or a specific taste, but that it is not an essential masculine quality.

Nietzsche speaks critically about the possessive or tyrannical aspects of masculine love alongside its fictionalizing tendencies, arguing that the normal functions of a woman's body offend men because they prevent him from having complete access to it as a possession; they also interfere with the psychological perfection of love.

Friendship is the highest form of love

It is not the lack of love, but the lack of friendship that makes relationships miserable. Nietzsche advises that lovers must be able to prepare for the end of the attraction. There is no woman out there so stunning that, after 20 years of marriage, her face would not be undisturbed. Therefore, to avoid disappointment, you have to realize that you have to marry a woman not only because she is the most beautiful woman in your life, but also because you want to have endless conversations with her.

Nietzsche saw friendship as essential for a good marriage. Sex on the other hand, causes problems, because a relationship based on romantic feelings is unlikely to last a lifetime. Therefore, the ontological differences between men and women tend to turn love into war. Thus in order to overcome the power games in the realm of passion, Nietzsche asks lovers to be great friends.]]>
The most unrefined type of desire is also the most readily identifiable as a desire to possess another. For example, control over a woman. A more subtle desire to possess her also requires her soul, and thus needs her to be willing to sacrifice herself for her lover. This is characterized by Nietzsche as a more full possession. An even more subtle desire to possess her gives rise to a concern that she might be willing to sacrifice what she desires for a mistaken image of her lover. This leads some lovers to want their women to know them deep down so that their sacrifice really is a sacrifice for them. A similar rank-ordering applies to statesmen, the less refined not caring whether they attain power by fraud, the more refined not taking pleasure in the people's love unless they love the statesman for who he really is. In both cases, the more spiritualized form of the desire to possess also demands one possess what is good more completely.

Nietzsche challenges romantic conceptions of erotic love by saying that love "may be the most ingenuous expression of selfishness." However, he does not make a clear effort to convince his readers that love, in its self-serving expressions, should be changed; nor does he suggest that even the most pervasive illusions of love should be rectified. Instead, he notes that strong human propensities to illusion in erotic love are important for that love to be effective, and praises some of the ingenuity of the artistry of love and the roles that people play. Men and women play these roles differently, and Nietzsche spends considerable time stressing the profound disparity between the sexes in the way they love.

The irony of this predicament is that a large number of men are completely unaware of the power their passionate attachments have both to the formation of their values and to their interactions with the world. Thus, according to Nietzsche, men in love are delirious. Women, on the other hand, are actors: their greatest skills in love rely on appearance, artistry and the play of' correct' gender roles. Nietzsche says that love has a comic dimension in this regard, because it involves a kind of theater that paradoxically relies on the distance of a woman. When women become too accessible or ‘real’ to men, men lose interest in them. Nietzsche finds love comedic because it does not consist in some attempt to know the other deeply, but rather in the confirmation of male fantasies in which women perform their constructed gender roles.

The idolatry that women practice when it comes to love is profoundly and initially a clever tool, in that all these idealizations of love enhance their own power and present them as ever more attractive in the eyes of men. But because, over the years, they have become used to this inflated estimation of love, it has happened that they ran into their own net and forgot the reason behind it. They themselves are now more deceived than men, and they suffer more, therefore, from the disappointment that almost inevitably comes into every woman's life— to the extent that she even has enough imagination and sense to be deceived and disappointed. Both men and women "need to be better educated" with regard to the essence of the relationship between men and women, "For it is a man who creates for himself the image of a woman, and a woman who shapes herself according to this image".

Nietzsche separates masculine from feminine love by conceptions of commitment and loyalty. Whereas women want to surrender completely to love, to approach it as a faith, to be "taken and accepted as a possession," Nietzsche argues that male love adheres to a possessive thirst to gain more from a lover, and states that men who are inclined to complete devotion are "not men." He suggests that “a man who loves like a woman becomes a slave; while a woman who loves like a woman becomes a more perfect woman”. Nietzsche maintains that fidelity can become an attribute of male love over time, due to, for example, gratitude or a specific taste, but that it is not an essential masculine quality.

Nietzsche speaks critically about the possessive or tyrannical aspects of masculine love alongside its fictionalizing tendencies, arguing that the normal functions of a woman's body offend men because they prevent him from having complete access to it as a possession; they also interfere with the psychological perfection of love.

Friendship is the highest form of love

It is not the lack of love, but the lack of friendship that makes relationships miserable. Nietzsche advises that lovers must be able to prepare for the end of the attraction. There is no woman out there so stunning that, after 20 years of marriage, her face would not be undisturbed. Therefore, to avoid disappointment, you have to realize that you have to marry a woman not only because she is the most beautiful woman in your life, but also because you want to have endless conversations with her.

Nietzsche saw friendship as essential for a good marriage. Sex on the other hand, causes problems, because a relationship based on romantic feelings is unlikely to last a lifetime. Therefore, the ontological differences between men and women tend to turn love into war. Thus in order to overcome the power games in the realm of passion, Nietzsche asks lovers to be great friends.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=130 Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:43:53 +0000 PAG]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=130
Additionally, oxytocin and vasopressin are involved in the regulation of attachment. It is well known that the hypothalamus plays a significant role in the brain's reward circuitry by synthesizing dopamine. Its release is associated with pleasurable experiences and activities. In this particular scenario, the aforementioned elements encompass engaging in interpersonal relationships and engaging in sexual activities. Elevated concentrations of dopamine and its associated hormone, norepinephrine, are released in the context of attraction. These chemical substances induce feelings of excitement, heightened energy, and intense happiness, potentially resulting in reduced desire for food intake and difficulty in attaining sufficient sleep. Consequently, it is plausible to assert that one's infatuation can reach a level where both eating and sleeping become challenging :lol:


Massage activates the parasympathetic nervous system. This reduces stress hormone levels (adrenaline and cortisol) while increasing levels of dopamine and serotonin. The feel-good hormone oxytocin is also released during massage due to the skin-to-skin contact. Any touch, including petting your dog, releases Oxytocin. Skin is extremely abundant in nerve endings, with up to 10,000 per square centimeter, and researchers discovered unique nerve fibers that respond exclusively to mild stroking at a specific tempo. Girls say my massage is better than sex with most men 

Neuroimaging studies have revealed that individuals experiencing romantic love exhibit heightened activity in key brain regions associated with reward processing, namely the ventral tegmental area and the caudate nucleus. This heightened neural response is observed when individuals are presented with visual stimuli depicting individuals to whom they have a strong attraction, in contrast to when they are exposed to images of individuals towards whom they feel neutral, such as an individual from their past high school acquaintanceship.]]>
Additionally, oxytocin and vasopressin are involved in the regulation of attachment. It is well known that the hypothalamus plays a significant role in the brain's reward circuitry by synthesizing dopamine. Its release is associated with pleasurable experiences and activities. In this particular scenario, the aforementioned elements encompass engaging in interpersonal relationships and engaging in sexual activities. Elevated concentrations of dopamine and its associated hormone, norepinephrine, are released in the context of attraction. These chemical substances induce feelings of excitement, heightened energy, and intense happiness, potentially resulting in reduced desire for food intake and difficulty in attaining sufficient sleep. Consequently, it is plausible to assert that one's infatuation can reach a level where both eating and sleeping become challenging :lol:


Massage activates the parasympathetic nervous system. This reduces stress hormone levels (adrenaline and cortisol) while increasing levels of dopamine and serotonin. The feel-good hormone oxytocin is also released during massage due to the skin-to-skin contact. Any touch, including petting your dog, releases Oxytocin. Skin is extremely abundant in nerve endings, with up to 10,000 per square centimeter, and researchers discovered unique nerve fibers that respond exclusively to mild stroking at a specific tempo. Girls say my massage is better than sex with most men 

Neuroimaging studies have revealed that individuals experiencing romantic love exhibit heightened activity in key brain regions associated with reward processing, namely the ventral tegmental area and the caudate nucleus. This heightened neural response is observed when individuals are presented with visual stimuli depicting individuals to whom they have a strong attraction, in contrast to when they are exposed to images of individuals towards whom they feel neutral, such as an individual from their past high school acquaintanceship.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=129 Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:55:33 +0000 whitemike]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=129
Many people assume that clitoral orgasms will not benefit from increased penis girth size. However, the clitoris extends beyond what is visible on the outside. The clitoris's 'body' attaches to the glans and has two legs up to 4 inches long that extend downwards and backwards into the body. Two erectile tissue-containing bulbs extend from the body of the clitoris on either side of the vaginal cavity. It is apparent that a thick penis will provide more stimulation to these legs and bulbs.

A thicker penis can also contribute to clitoral orgasm because the tightness during penetration generates more pulling on the inner lips (labia minora). Because they link to the clitoral hood, their movements frequently cause the hood to slide up and down over the clitoris. However, girth makes no serious difference if the woman has sufficient muscles, just as the mouth can compress as tightly around the little finger or thumb.

Fact: 6 or 6.5 to 7 inches. There is no anatomical reason why an inch or half should make a difference in sexual enjoyment because the nerve endings in the vagina are between 2 and 2.5 inches long. A six is as good as a seven. However, many guys struggle to please out of shape women with loose vaginal muscles. To feel your girth, a girl can simply squeeze her muscles if your penis is less than 4 inches in circumference. 

1) Length is important for the cervical orgasm. It is theorized that a cervical orgasm is the stimulation of the A-spot, which is located anterior to the cervix. However, 6 inches is adequate for any regular vagina, including the deepest Germanic/Slavic or African vaginas, because the woman can elevate her legs and angle her pelvis, effectively adding 3-4 inches to penis length. Even 4 inches is probably sufficient for most European women and more than enough for Southeast Asians. Of course, if the woman is a lazy big ass, she may lack the muscular strength to lift her legs...

2) Prostitutes' vaginas are probably tighter than normal girls. The vagina functions similarly to the mouth: the more you eat, the stronger your lips, tongue, and other mouth muscles get, and the same is true for the vagina. Women who never have sex, orgasm, or kegels, and generally allow themselves to become lazy overweight, are more likely to have loose vaginas. Vaginal childbirth does not always cause problems, unless there is ripping or the mother allows herself to become a lazy fat ass after giving birth, in which case her muscles fail. I've had a lot of sex with ladies who have had several vaginal deliveries yet have tight vaginas because they keep their entire body in shape, including the vagina. The loosest vagina ever was a shy young woman with limited sexual experience who had probably never thought about her vagina, her muscles got weak from disuse.

3) Most women are sexually immature, hence clitoris provides 80% of their enjoyment. Taoists agree that cervical orgasm is preferable. 90% or even 100% of enjoyment (excluding foreplay) should ideally originate deep in the vagina, beyond the g-spot or middle gate. This also applies to guys. Men who fixate on the glans are sexually immature, just like women who focus on the clitoris. Both male and female circumcision may have been designed to encourage inward focus, while I do not support circumcision.]]>
Many people assume that clitoral orgasms will not benefit from increased penis girth size. However, the clitoris extends beyond what is visible on the outside. The clitoris's 'body' attaches to the glans and has two legs up to 4 inches long that extend downwards and backwards into the body. Two erectile tissue-containing bulbs extend from the body of the clitoris on either side of the vaginal cavity. It is apparent that a thick penis will provide more stimulation to these legs and bulbs.

A thicker penis can also contribute to clitoral orgasm because the tightness during penetration generates more pulling on the inner lips (labia minora). Because they link to the clitoral hood, their movements frequently cause the hood to slide up and down over the clitoris. However, girth makes no serious difference if the woman has sufficient muscles, just as the mouth can compress as tightly around the little finger or thumb.

Fact: 6 or 6.5 to 7 inches. There is no anatomical reason why an inch or half should make a difference in sexual enjoyment because the nerve endings in the vagina are between 2 and 2.5 inches long. A six is as good as a seven. However, many guys struggle to please out of shape women with loose vaginal muscles. To feel your girth, a girl can simply squeeze her muscles if your penis is less than 4 inches in circumference. 

1) Length is important for the cervical orgasm. It is theorized that a cervical orgasm is the stimulation of the A-spot, which is located anterior to the cervix. However, 6 inches is adequate for any regular vagina, including the deepest Germanic/Slavic or African vaginas, because the woman can elevate her legs and angle her pelvis, effectively adding 3-4 inches to penis length. Even 4 inches is probably sufficient for most European women and more than enough for Southeast Asians. Of course, if the woman is a lazy big ass, she may lack the muscular strength to lift her legs...

2) Prostitutes' vaginas are probably tighter than normal girls. The vagina functions similarly to the mouth: the more you eat, the stronger your lips, tongue, and other mouth muscles get, and the same is true for the vagina. Women who never have sex, orgasm, or kegels, and generally allow themselves to become lazy overweight, are more likely to have loose vaginas. Vaginal childbirth does not always cause problems, unless there is ripping or the mother allows herself to become a lazy fat ass after giving birth, in which case her muscles fail. I've had a lot of sex with ladies who have had several vaginal deliveries yet have tight vaginas because they keep their entire body in shape, including the vagina. The loosest vagina ever was a shy young woman with limited sexual experience who had probably never thought about her vagina, her muscles got weak from disuse.

3) Most women are sexually immature, hence clitoris provides 80% of their enjoyment. Taoists agree that cervical orgasm is preferable. 90% or even 100% of enjoyment (excluding foreplay) should ideally originate deep in the vagina, beyond the g-spot or middle gate. This also applies to guys. Men who fixate on the glans are sexually immature, just like women who focus on the clitoris. Both male and female circumcision may have been designed to encourage inward focus, while I do not support circumcision.]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=124 Fri, 14 Jun 2024 07:32:22 +0000 PAG]]> https://rooshvforum.org/showthread.php?tid=124








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