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Thumbs Down Was the original RVF simply a mediocre incel forum?
Posted by: PAG - 06-22-2024, 09:40 PM - Forum: The Pit - No Replies

No doubt, the original RVF has assisted academics in comprehending incels and the Red Pill to Black Pill framework as a means for individuals to express their mental illness in connection with certain previously concealed alleged truths. But what enduring value did RVF produce?

30 years ago, the so-called "seduction" industry emerged, a business that sold seminars and media professing to educate men how to seduce or pick up women, earning these guys the nickname pick-up artists (PUAs).  The first PUA forum, alt.seduction.fast, established in 1994, aided the industry's growth into a communal subculture. Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project was one of the new forums that emerged in the 1990s, and it is where the term "incel" first appeared. The forum, founded by a bisexual lady in Toronto, intended to help those who wanted but couldn't find love connections. While this forum was not intended to promote misogyny, members of the pickup artist and incel communities shared disappointment with their lack of sexual experience.

Game methods and PUA culture rose to popularity in popular culture in the mid-2000s as a result of journalist Neil Strauss' best-selling 2005 book The Game, in which he immersed himself in PUA culture, and the 2007 VH1 reality show The Pick-Up Artist. The three handicaps, Rollo, Roissy, and Roosh, led the so-called Manosphere as it emerged at the same time. They expanded on the idea of the sexual marketplace. According to this theory, each person has a "sexual market value" (SMV), which depends on things like physical appearance, fitness, age, wealth, and social class. This, they argue, results in a distribution of women that follows the 80/20 rule: 80 percent of women chase the top 20 percent of men, while the bottom 20 percent of women pursue the remaining 80 percent of men. Most of these concepts were based on a simplified understanding of evolutionary biology. PUAs recommend that men improve their SMV by mastering the "game" (techniques for seducing women), making more money, and/or enhancing their physical attractiveness through exercise. These beliefs also lead into red pill theory, which "awakens" men to the alleged realities of feminist rule.

Around 2016, incel forums like RVF began to shift from a Red Pill to an increasing "Black Pill" mentality that women choose sexual partners based solely on physical features ("lookism"), implying that whether or not a person will be an incel is determined.  The Black Pill worldview often provides just two options for dealing with their new accepted reality: accept their fate as an incel or attempt to change society to their advantage. Incels embrace a wide range of political beliefs, including women's concentration camps, government-mandated girlfriends and enforced monogamy, and the abolition of the majority of "alpha" men and women. The Santa Barbara shooter's manifesto reflects his own image of a perfect society. The specifics of a political program are not created in a cohesive manner for the entire movement; however, they perceive themselves as an oppressed group that can only improve their status by a comprehensive revolution and reformation of society.

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To normal people, it appears to have opened a Pandora's box of mental disease that has required considerable effort to contain. 

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Autistic spectrum incels seek to prove the reality of their beliefs by misinterpreting scientific research, online dating databases, and conducting their own "experiments" to show that women are primarily concerned with a man's physical attractiveness. Although some incels continue to pursue plastic surgery, exercise ("gym maxxing"), or otherwise try to improve their physical appearance, many believe such attempts are pointless because inceldom is a societal issue rather than an individual one, etc.

I believe that ignorance and bias have a place and can assist to the growth of truth by forcing you to think outside of your usual thought patterns. It's similar to studying philosophy. Philosophy is like doing pushups. What’s the point of pushups, so you can do more pushups? Maybe for some. But we can see how this capitalist approach to gain for the sake of being able to gain more is completely ridiculous. So, philosophy is useless. It simply improves your cognitive abilities. This is how RVF should be regarded. Students today have emphasized the quick, blind reduction of prejudice to the realm of intellectual inferiority, and as a result, they lack the intellectual firepower to eliminate prejudice through argument and critical thought rather than hollow, intuitive bias. This has given rise to the right-wing, which claims they are being unfairly punished and discarded.

There was a general lack of knowledge about autism spectrum disorders when I first started warning people in 2016 about the serious danger that radicalized autistic people posed, and no one saw the connection. Autism is a significant disorder. Contrary to the beliefs of many members of the neurodiversity community, it is not merely a collection of social idiosyncrasies. Individuals who are impacted often have significant social limitations, as well as some level of language impairment, difficulties with processing information, heightened sensitivity, and a tendency to experience sensory overload and fatigue. A significant number of these people necessitate rigorous treatment and medication. The long-term effects of sensory level delusional activation, which results from excessive activity and disorganized patterns across the cerebral cortex, can be significant. The term Red Pill has gained wider acceptance among far-right and white supremacist groups, who use it to characterize their own interpretations of awakening experiences and conspiracy-based worldviews. These perspectives frequently align with male supremacist ideologies, including antifeminism. Refer to: http://bit.ly/3Kp2nu3 

The original RVF content acts as a precursor to the Red Pill ideology and eventually leads to the adoption of the Black Pill ideology. This ultimately results in condemnation on Earth. Any ideology that supports the Red Pill notion of a matriarchal society, while disregarding individual-level actions and asserting that only societal transformation can bring about positive outcomes, is profoundly foolish and warrants serious consideration.

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  Understanding the so-called sexual marketplace
Posted by: PAG - 06-22-2024, 02:48 PM - Forum: Game Forum - No Replies

The so-called "sexual marketplace" is straightforward to comprehend if one studies the appropriate materials. Evolutionary biology, a branch of the biological sciences that studies evolutionary processes, primarily governs the sexual market. This is the best introductory book on this subject that I can think of for the audience here:

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it's actually a really fun read and will elevate your "game" from kindergarten to high school

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After gaining a basic understanding of biology, cognitive psychology, the philosophy of science, and the philosophy of mind, you'll be ready for pickup :lol:

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  In 2024, I have noticed certain changes in game
Posted by: AirWaves - 06-22-2024, 11:19 AM - Forum: Game Forum - No Replies

I'm noticed certain differences in the game and the types of men that are getting results against those who aren't. It's shocking how terrible game content is nowadays. It's primarily guys sperging on shits or boomer pods. Married house husbands with no receipts. I'd like to get married eventually. I'm not into casual sex, and my goal is to have at least 5-10 girls to date before deciding who I want to marry.

Here are a few of my many observations.

Gen-Z ladies have some of the worst dress styles I've seen since the 1980s (which makes sense because a lot of their dress styles are inspired by that era lmfaooo).

Nightlife is becoming less vibrant than it once was. The nightlife scene never really recovered following the COVID lockdowns. I've noticed a lot of posts online about folks discussing this in various metros. In the metro region I'm now in, I've seen a number of reviews, comments, or whatever you want to call them regarding the local nightlife scene, and none of them were positive. I observed a lot of remarks about how things weren't as good as they had been pre-COVID and how the environment was dreadful. I also recall reading a lot of comments about how it's gotten much trashier and full of ghetto folks lol. Something I've noticed is that there are a lot of fights going on in clubs around here, as well as shootings.

There are significantly more high-end sit-down restaurants and far fewer clubs and bars where you can simply meet women. This could be a Miami issue, so perhaps folks from other cities can weigh in. There are far more venues where you must reserve a table rather to simply showing up and playing. Even promoters are being replaced by an app called "Tabler".

Women are becoming b1tchier throughout the day, making daygame less viable. I believe that is related to the creep culture, with women bragging about how guys observe them in the gym or something, while women are less willing to be approached coldly during the day. There are a lot more AirPods and headphones for women who don't want to be bothered. During the lockdowns, people became socially isolated to a greater extent than they were used to. The weeks and months pass, and before you realize it, you've become a recluse, with basic social interaction becoming increasingly difficult. People become less social and more inward-focused, alienated, and shut in. When you get into this routine, it can be quite tough to break. What you're seeing isn't necessarily dating-related, but rather basic social interactions.

In my perspective, the importance of social media is somewhat overstated. Swipe applications have been dead for a while. You can still find a PYT on Bumble and other applications, but you must stick out more, i.e. be attractive. Successful men aren't interested in utilizing dating apps unless they're in a rut or trying to covertly cheat, but to each their own. Dating applications, as mentioned, have become a cesspool of low-quality girls, including the attractive ones. Unless you are an athlete or star, this is unlikely to be a game changer unless you are willing to go headfirst into the Instagram phoney madness. I would keep away of this.

It's almost as if the entire dating industry is waiting for the next truly unique breakthrough. First, the rise of Tinder and Swipe Apps caused older dating services to be phased out. As of now, no app has dethroned the Big 3 Dating Apps, resulting in a standstill in the online dating market as a whole. I believe the next breakthrough will not be an app, but rather a return to in-person events and connections. There may be some online component to organizing, but people, in general, are growing tired of online engagement.It is a female's job to entice, and it is in her feminine nature to strive to capture all of your attention. If you want to meet quality ladies, you should focus on your lifestyle game or social circle more than before. By quality, I mean behavior and appearance. As previously said, online dating is a dumping ground for low-quality women, including those who are attractive. With the lifestyle/social circle game, the vetting process is easy, and if you have great mates, they can also give their input on potential women,

Open relationships are becoming more common, particularly on swipe apps; I've even had ladies state that their boyfriend is bisexual, so the cucking is a real thing.

Feel free to add your observations..

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Tongue Filipina single moms: Are they easy and worth a go?
Posted by: AirWaves - 06-22-2024, 10:48 AM - Forum: Game Forum - Replies (1)

While this is not my preference, I'm not the best looking guy out there and don't have much money. Single moms may be an advantage to some men. She will be happy not to have a child with you and her standards should be fairly low

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Thumbs Down Critical Analysis: Costa Rica
Posted by: Contrarian Expatriate - 06-22-2024, 10:12 AM - Forum: Travel Forum - No Replies

Costa Rica is an enjoyable destination, with a majority of the country being safer than other parts of Central America. It is an excellent choice for a family vacation of one or two weeks, offering opportunities to see the jungle and volcanoes. But that's about it. This article nails it:

https://culturewhiz.org/trip-reports/cos...meet-women

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  Critical Analysis: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Posted by: Contrarian Expatriate - 06-22-2024, 10:07 AM - Forum: Travel Forum - No Replies

This article covers it well enough

 https://culturewhiz.org/trip-reports/bue...opean-vibe

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Thumbs Down Involuntary celibates (incels) claim most men are incel based on Tinder data
Posted by: PAG - 06-22-2024, 08:01 AM - Forum: Game Forum - No Replies

According to Tinder data, incels claim that most men are involuntary celibates. These incels have found that girls rate most young men's physical attractiveness below average. Thus, they believe many men are involuntary celibates. However, significant research shows that most people have engaged in sexual behavior. Male users outnumber female users on Tinder and other dating apps. This disparity lowers women's assessment of men's attractiveness, placing a large percentage below average.

However, female attraction goes beyond appearance. He who commands attention is beautiful and high-status. This is why rap stars get more ass than CEOs and why haters surface when someone is popular. Attention-grabbing men are what women want. Humans evolved from a threat-based social system to one based on attraction. In beauty contests, exam rooms, athletics, art, literature, and Nobel Prize races, we strive for favorable attention, adoration, and prestige. We want to be valued for our positive contributions, talents, and attributes. People are ranked based on their ability to contribute to society. This means that our society's true alphas are professional athletes, Youtube/Instagram stars, Nobel Prize winners, successful performers and artists, affluent businessmen, and politicians we elect for their ability to contribute meaningfully and lead.

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  Nothing is truly new
Posted by: PAG - 06-22-2024, 07:20 AM - Forum: Everything Else - No Replies

Creativity is simply the recombination of known patterns. The universe is a reference of infinite variety, it has all the computations that you might need already computed for you, with the right perspective and index of concepts, that is... That's what you realize when you study cosmology simulation technology and see their results match up with reality. Just try to think of a genuinely new thing that does not represent a recombination of known patterns. You can't do it. Most people fail to understand what "pattern" means in this context. Color, smell, weight, gravity, etc. are all concepts that consist of patterns. You will always and inevitably recombine those concepts and patterns when being creative. 

The development of the wheel was simply a recombination of the known patterns "round" and "rolling"... nothing truly novel. In order for our ancestors to invent the wheel, the patterns that led to its creation had to be present and accessible. Once you understand the perspective of limitless change, you can see everything, and it is only a matter of implementing a series of changes to get where you desire.

Creativity is the semi-random recombination of previously known patterns for a specific (meta-)goal. I cannot envisage a universe that follows different natural principles because I have no prior knowledge of that system.... I can conceive bizarre things based on patterns I've previously learnt, but I can't fathom a completely different cosmos. So, is there a limit to creativity that both people and software must accept? I can write a 10-liner that recombines previously known patterns in novel ways. When you combine a (meta-)goal with certain heuristics for the recombination process, you obtain creativity.

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  How to quickly establish rapport with anyone
Posted by: whitemike - 06-22-2024, 03:07 AM - Forum: Game Forum - No Replies

Many people want to deepen and develop their relationships. The simplest solution is to focus on the other person. Anecdotal evidence and science both support the idea that positive social interactions and relationships lead to the most happiness. Our brain biologically rewards us for sharing our thoughts, priorities, and ambitions with others, whether in the long or short term. Our brain also rewards us when we are unconditionally accepted as individuals without judgment.

Both of these beliefs are genetically encoded in everyone of us (to varied degrees) as a result of our old survival impulses (egocentrism) and our need to belong to groups or tribes. Combining these fundamental notions might be easy to understand but challenging to implement. Speak in terms of the other person's interests and priorities, then validate them, their choices, and their identity without passing judgment. Some people do this naturally; for the rest, you can train this skill until it becomes second nature. If you disagree, simply offer, "That's a fascinating / insightful/ thoughtful opinion…would you mind helping me understand how you came up with it?". Again, their brain will reward them at several levels for this.

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  What is an Alpha Male?
Posted by: whitemike - 06-22-2024, 02:57 AM - Forum: Game Forum - No Replies

Being an alpha is determined by one's level of participation in a group. More precisely, it pertains to assisting in the cultivation and sustenance of a cohesive group dynamic, hierarchical structure, and operational efficiency of the group. Prior to comprehending the concept of an alpha, it is essential to grasp some aspects of power's inherent nature. Specifically, the organization bestows power upon you. You only possess power when it is bestowed to you by others. However, there is a caveat attached to the power bestowed upon you by the organization - you must prioritize their needs. That is the agreement. You have additional power to attend to their needs. Should you breach this trust, the group will promptly revoke your authority. An excessive focus on personal gratification and a lack of effective guidance can ultimately result in being defeated by the others whom you once led.

The PUA strategy is based on the belief that women are attracted to dominant males in their local community. While being the alpha male may be challenging, it is quite simple to deceive women using certain mannerisms and actions. Therefore, the true alpha status is often confused with the perception of alpha status by one or more women, specifically in terms of the sexual benefits associated with alpha rank. Most of what you mentioned is accurate, however it is somewhat irrelevant to the main topic.

A beta animal is a subordinate animal that assumes the role of alpha if the current alpha dies.

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